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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 30, 2010 13:20:25 GMT -6
Coaching
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Post by k on Nov 30, 2010 14:36:54 GMT -6
And, can someone please explain to me HOW places separated by a few miles can claim some type of genetic difference. Please. I guess it depends on where you're at. There are many towns here that are very different ethnically from their neighbors. Two neighboring towns: Town 1 vs Town 2 19k population vs 21k population 70%+ Black (large Caribbean population) vs 95% WASP & East Asian 50k average household income vs 150k average household income We don't have a single black or Hispanic male in our school. We have neighboring districts that start 15+ non Europeans. It is baffling to me that people would question that only a few miles away could be massive genetic differences. |
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Post by Coach Huey on Nov 30, 2010 15:37:13 GMT -6
I dont believe in the "it" factor. I think there is good coaching and bad coaching. Coaches that can motivate and have a good game plan, mixed with talent. Where I live I coach a freshman team and our cross town rivals have the "tradition". Every year they kick the snot out of our varsity team. Every year I hear about their tradition. Its not tradition, it is hard work, talent and a belief that you can beat anyone anytime. It starts with the HC and trickles down to the lower coaches. There is no magic or luck. Its old fashioned hard work! I hear even some of our coaches gush about our rivals "man that guy is just a winner". It honestly pisses me off that these guys wont look in the mirror fix the issues and start acting and coaching like winners. um, isn't that what "tradition" is? tradition is something handed down. tradition is a continuing pattern of culture beliefs and practices. tradition is a customary method or manner. tradition is the handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs, information, etc., by word of mouth or by practice. so, the program's "tradition" was established ... then that "tradition" was carried on. but, yes, it is through hard work, coaching, etc.... that is all part of their "tradition" |
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Post by phantom on Nov 30, 2010 18:58:41 GMT -6
I dont believe in the "it" factor. I think there is good coaching and bad coaching. Coaches that can motivate and have a good game plan, mixed with talent. Where I live I coach a freshman team and our cross town rivals have the "tradition". Every year they kick the snot out of our varsity team. Every year I hear about their tradition. Its not tradition, it is hard work, talent and a belief that you can beat anyone anytime. It starts with the HC and trickles down to the lower coaches. There is no magic or luck. Its old fashioned hard work! I hear even some of our coaches gush about our rivals "man that guy is just a winner". It honestly pisses me off that these guys wont look in the mirror fix the issues and start acting and coaching like winners. um, isn't that what "tradition" is? tradition is something handed down. tradition is a continuing pattern of culture beliefs and practices. tradition is a customary method or manner. tradition is the handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs, information, etc., by word of mouth or by practice. so, the program's "tradition" was established ... then that "tradition" was carried on. but, yes, it is through hard work, coaching, etc.... that is all part of their "tradition" That's why it's hard to build a program. Turning a culture around and building tradition takes talent, work, and luck. New coaches at established programs who turn their backs on tradition do so at their own peril (actually, they usually sign their own death warrants). |
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 30, 2010 19:01:00 GMT -6
I guess it depends on where you're at. There are many towns here that are very different ethnically from their neighbors. Two neighboring towns: Town 1 vs Town 2 19k population vs 21k population 70%+ Black (large Caribbean population) vs 95% WASP & East Asian 50k average household income vs 150k average household income We don't have a single black or Hispanic male in our school. We have neighboring districts that start 15+ non Europeans. It is baffling to me that people would question that only a few miles away could be massive genetic differences. You are describing a socioeconomic difference that trends along race/ethnic lines. And while I am not naive enough to not look at the evidence and say that there is probably some genetic differences which seem to favor black athletes in speed and jumping ability, I would argue that such "advantages" would only really start to play out at the TOP levels, talking about the best, of the best, of the best... |
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Post by John Knight on Nov 30, 2010 20:49:42 GMT -6
Usually there is Money involved as well.
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Post by Coach Vint on Nov 30, 2010 22:01:26 GMT -6
I dont believe in the "it" factor. I think there is good coaching and bad coaching. Coaches that can motivate and have a good game plan, mixed with talent. Where I live I coach a freshman team and our cross town rivals have the "tradition". Every year they kick the snot out of our varsity team. Every year I hear about their tradition. Its not tradition, it is hard work, talent and a belief that you can beat anyone anytime. It starts with the HC and trickles down to the lower coaches. There is no magic or luck. Its old fashioned hard work! I hear even some of our coaches gush about our rivals "man that guy is just a winner". It honestly pisses me off that these guys wont look in the mirror fix the issues and start acting and coaching like winners. You are either coaching it to happen, or allowing it to happen. Winning is not an accident, or something that happens because of tradition. Winning consistently is about a process. It is about belief and high expectations. You earn the belief because of the preparation that is done during the season and in the off-season. If you want to have a great program stop talking about what you don't have. Get rid of the justification for mediocrity. Instead, focus on what you do have, and the reasons you will be successful. Reinforce those beliefs everyday. CoachCB made outstanding points! If you are in a program where the culture stinks, change it. It will be a process. It starts with passion and enthusiasm for football. You get your coaches to ooze enthusiasm each day. You create the culture. You create the commitment from the town, teachers, parents, and players. Is it easy? NO! That's why very few schools are at that point. At some point they stunk. I can tell you this... if you talk enough about why you aren't the best... you'll never be the best. That I can guarantee. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 1, 2010 7:22:17 GMT -6
I dont believe in the "it" factor. I think there is good coaching and bad coaching. Coaches that can motivate and have a good game plan, mixed with talent. Where I live I coach a freshman team and our cross town rivals have the "tradition". Every year they kick the snot out of our varsity team. Every year I hear about their tradition. Its not tradition, it is hard work, talent and a belief that you can beat anyone anytime. It starts with the HC and trickles down to the lower coaches. There is no magic or luck. Its old fashioned hard work! I hear even some of our coaches gush about our rivals "man that guy is just a winner". It honestly pisses me off that these guys wont look in the mirror fix the issues and start acting and coaching like winners. You are either coaching it to happen, or allowing it to happen. Winning is not an accident, or something that happens because of tradition. Winning consistently is about a process. It is about belief and high expectations. You earn the belief because of the preparation that is done during the season and in the off-season. If you want to have a great program stop talking about what you don't have. Get rid of the justification for mediocrity. Instead, focus on what you do have, and the reasons you will be successful. Reinforce those beliefs everyday. CoachCB made outstanding points! If you are in a program where the culture stinks, change it. It will be a process. It starts with passion and enthusiasm for football. You get your coaches to ooze enthusiasm each day. You create the culture. You create the commitment from the town, teachers, parents, and players. Is it easy? NO! That's why very few schools are at that point. At some point they stunk. I can tell you this... if you talk enough about why you aren't the best... you'll never be the best. That I can guarantee. DING!!! DING!!! We have a winner!!! |
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Post by hchscoachtom on Dec 5, 2010 20:36:51 GMT -6
East Grand Rapids High School in Michigan, also boast over 100 different state championships in the schools history. TRADITION is HUGE and carries over to other programs as well.
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Post by hchscoachtom on Dec 5, 2010 21:04:24 GMT -6
Before the beginning of the season I thought we were at a point in our program’s development to say that we had "IT". We had been to the play-offs 4 years in a row, won state championship 2 years ago, and district championship last season.
I thought we were at a point that we would be contenders again this season. Unfortunately that didn't happen, in fact we didn't even have a winning season. So I had to ask myself why didn't we meet the expectations I had for the program.
I believe one contributing factor was the lack of consistency with the leadership of the program. This season we had our third head coach in three years. Each season came with was a different style of leadership and expectations that weren’t consistent from season to season. Fortunately the program has a head coach who is committed for more then one season.
Another issue was players not buying into the goals of the program, or maybe it was more the coaching staff not doing a great job of selling the goals and mission of the program. Players were apathetic and complacent. But, I think the biggest issue was players doubting that the coaches actually believed in them, and were fully committed to the success of the team and program. You could especially see this when facing adversity.
From what I've experienced the contributing factors for developing a team that has “IT” are consistency in coaching staff, or at least the head coach, players buying into the program and a staff that believes in the athletes and is committed to the program.
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