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Post by Sparkey on Jul 7, 2010 4:59:02 GMT -6
How do the rules of Canadian HS Football compare with American style. We are playing a team from Canada this year and would like to know the difference. It could be interesting scouting them if they play 12 man football. Thanks for your input.
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Post by 42falcon on Jul 7, 2010 5:53:32 GMT -6
I can help you out a little here.
-12 man
-bigger field width and length (not sure if that factors into your game?)
-3 downs VS 4
-defence is 1 yard off the LOS
-1 yard to press the WR
-unlimited backfield motion, slot rec get a run at the LOS
If you are on Hudl I can send you some film if you want to have a look?
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Post by rgrmaverick on Jul 7, 2010 7:29:56 GMT -6
Ball is always live on kicking plays!
I have the differences on Power Point if you want - pm me with your email
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Post by 42falcon on Jul 7, 2010 7:40:44 GMT -6
Sorry yeah should have gone over special teams stuff to!
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Post by Chris Clement on Jul 7, 2010 9:26:25 GMT -6
The punter or anyone behind the punter at the time of the kick can recover a punt
Other coverage players have to give 5 yards around the returner when he recovers
No fair catch
only 1 yd to press receiver, but you can press him all over the field so long as you maintain continuous contact (refs tend to interpret this one differently, ask beforehand)
A kick out the endzone for a touchback is worth 1 point, ie long punt or missed FG or very long KO. if you kneel in the endzone you get a TB, but give up a point. Doesn't apply if the defense recovers a fumble or INT in their own end zone and chooses not to return it
Player is down when he hits the ground, he doesn't need to be touched down. Exception: a player can drop to make a catch and get up if he wasn't touched.
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Post by 42falcon on Jul 7, 2010 10:25:03 GMT -6
The teams out west do not play American rules.
Only in the Province of BC do they play American rules the rest of the country plays using the Canadian rules and field. That is why BC doesn't participate in the Canada Cup.
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Post by 42falcon on Jul 7, 2010 11:14:10 GMT -6
Haha fair enough!
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Post by davecisar on Jul 7, 2010 14:45:23 GMT -6
How competitive are these teams compared to US teams?
We are playing a pair of Canadian youth teams this August
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Post by 42falcon on Jul 7, 2010 16:06:08 GMT -6
Depends on where the teams are from. We get a whole bunch of different rules in each area. For example the Calgary Senior High School Athletic association says we can only practice in season and 1 week out of season. No athletic periods or any of that stuff either no skill work in the off season either. That is why we have a spring season of community football.
If you get a team like Raymond or Okotoks where they are outside the city and get to run the teams under a different set of circumstances then you can get some very good teams. Not that the City teams are not good they are often not as polished as some of the Provincial power houses. Okotoks will run a 3 or 4 week spring camp with off season training all integrated year round, not all programs do this. The focus in Canadian sports at the HS level is not about W's it is generally about an expereince for all students. There are no stippends or just coaches here all are volunteres or teachers that are expected to coach as part of our provincial agrenment.
Not sure if this helps answer your question on how good the teams are?
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Post by rgrmaverick on Jul 8, 2010 8:25:41 GMT -6
Receivers only require one foot in bounds while catching the ball.
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Post by 42falcon on Jul 8, 2010 9:04:05 GMT -6
msnyder I agree with you on a few of those points
Team speed = USA hands down this is in large part due to the long term coaching and the quality of those coaches at all levels as well as the emphasis on playing football at an early age. here many of our super athletes play hockey until HS then some make the switch. So there is an issue of experience for both players and coaches.
Agression: I think there is something to the relation of experience and coaching again.
As far as numbers well...... look at population sizes
Also take into account the mandate of HS sports in the USA and in Canada there is a distinct difference. I have read here how coaches have been let go of teams that had poor records while in Calgary that never happens. As long as the kids are participating and the experience is positive then the admin is happy.
(from a coaching perspective I want to win we all do but some are in coaching roles because they were put there by an admin and the school "needs" a coach for the sport).
I see us moving towards a more USA style of sports but it will take 5-10 years.
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Post by rgrmaverick on Jul 8, 2010 13:39:31 GMT -6
Canadian rules and 4 downs = ULTIMATE Football ...
...in my humble opinion of course
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 8, 2010 20:13:40 GMT -6
Receivers only require one foot in bounds while catching the ball. But that's not different from the US amateur game. |
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Post by rgrmaverick on Jul 8, 2010 20:18:36 GMT -6
True
We sometimes make the mistake that NFL rules are USA rules
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Post by julien on Jul 10, 2010 6:59:38 GMT -6
haha I'm from Ontario, out west to me means BC lol Where are you in Ontario? I've a friend who coach QBs for the new semi pro team. |
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Post by coachdennis on Jul 10, 2010 23:55:38 GMT -6
Quite often you will see high school teams from BC, where they play American rules, going down to Washington State for exhibition games. Basically it works like this - if they play a A or AA school, they might be able to hang in there, maybe even win. Anything from a AAA to AAAAA, and the British Columbia team has always been roadkill. The Canadian teams will have some standout players here and there, but overall they just won't come close to the depth that a top shelf U.S. high school program will have. Those marginal starters that most of our Canadian teams have get cruelly exposed when facing a team with universally great depth. The Canadian teams are usually fully aware of this, and just view it as an experience and an eye-opener for their kids.
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