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Post by coachd5085 on May 2, 2009 9:23:28 GMT -6
If our buddy spins any faster, we might see a collapse in the space-time continuum, and witness the earth fall backward in time kurtbryan.blogspot.com/Two things to learn from this: 1) If you are the only one speaking, then your message is "right" 2) If it was about the kids..and not the marketing...why is it still "the a-11" even though not all eleven are wearing eligible numbers? Now, on a more serious note, I can definitely see more of the BYU type formation systems picking up some steam, and I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. Such things still fall within the logical scope of the rules. Nobody ever said that the second man from the center must be some big hulking drive blocking mass. Just that he usually needs to wear a certain number. I look forward to more of these styles of offense. Chances are they will have MIGHTY TASTY DEFENSES to carve up. Schematically, how would you treat an "athletic tackle" split wide but wearing an ineligible number?
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Post by tothehouse on May 2, 2009 9:41:48 GMT -6
I like how he talks about today's athletes as being "Game Breakers" and low and behold..........that is the same name as his book!!!
Hmmm....marketing?
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Post by superpower on May 2, 2009 9:52:58 GMT -6
Anyone remember how many traditional offensive tackles went in this year's NFL draft?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2009 9:59:12 GMT -6
Well, I'd assume not many because according to an ESPN the Mag article I read, players like Johnathon Ogden, Orlando Pace, and even Shawn Merrimen were being phased out of the game
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Post by superpower on May 2, 2009 10:08:19 GMT -6
LOL
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Post by phantom on May 2, 2009 10:49:38 GMT -6
Schematically, how would you treat an "athletic tackle" split wide but wearing an ineligible number? With suspicion. When the undermanned freshman basketball team that I played on was forced to put me into the game my role was to stand in the corner while more talented players (that would be all of them) tried to score. Without a scouting report I suspect that that's the role of the "sleeker/faster" Gamebreakers.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 2, 2009 11:13:15 GMT -6
Schematically, how would you treat an "athletic tackle" split wide but wearing an ineligible number? With suspicion. When the undermanned freshman basketball team that I played on was forced to put me into the game my role was to stand in the corner while more talented players (that would be all of them) tried to score. Without a scouting report I suspect that that's the role of the "sleeker/faster" Gamebreakers. Good point. The "Mark Eatonization" of football perhaps? Do you put a physical player out there to discourage any crack blocks? I would think that the "gamebreakers" might think twice about cracking if a pretty physical LB played the block straight through the chin...
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Post by coachorr on May 2, 2009 11:25:21 GMT -6
No offense, but my favorite "game breaker" is the one who is a consitent blocker who can pancake kids and finish blocks.
I was just listening to Jason Smith in an interview (the tackle from Baylor drafter by the Rams), he says, " I play with a chip on my shoulder".
Yes! That is my kind of game changer.
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Post by coachriley on May 2, 2009 11:26:35 GMT -6
Wow, I actually started getting a headache reading that. And he said the offense was the still the same, except that now he had to wear number 50-79....sooooo kinda like an offensive lineman, lol. This guy makes me laugh at how hard he is still pushing his product, oops, I mean this style of offense, no matter what has been done to stop it.
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Post by 19delta on May 2, 2009 12:01:10 GMT -6
I have to disagree with his basic premise, which is that football on the high school level will continue to use ever-expanding spread formations. If anything, I believe the pendulum is swinging back towards double-tight end, multiple-running back sets. I think defenses have largely caught up with defending 4-and 5-receiver formations and the advantage that you had offensively 5-6 years ago has been largely eliminated.
That is not to say that the spread is "dead" at the high school level but the days of simply sending your kids out in a 4 or 5 receiver formation and having the defense crap their pants have been over for a while. I believe that to be an effective spread team, there are lots of things you have to be good at and a long list of "answers" you will need for the "questions" the defense is going to pose to you.
Furthermore, without the deceptive benefit of putting all players in an eligible jersey number, I think that BYU-type formations will be an interesting change-of-pace, but will largely remain a novelty. The problem I have is that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to take a big, fast, kid with good hands and put him in a position where he is wearing 50-79 and has to line up on the LOS and can't go downfield to catch the ball. In my opinion, that is a wasted asset.
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Post by touchdownmaker on May 2, 2009 12:47:44 GMT -6
All of the spread teams in our league finished with a losing record. 3-6 was the best record of any spread team. Top teams , both were I formation teams with speedy tailbacks and tough defenses.
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Post by morris on May 2, 2009 14:52:24 GMT -6
Off topic but how many of those spread teams were in the gun or in the gun a majority of the time?
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Post by wingtol on May 2, 2009 14:53:31 GMT -6
I am not a blogger but do you usually quote yourself on your blog in a story about yourself?
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Post by fbdoc on May 2, 2009 15:42:52 GMT -6
I think his book should be called Almost a True Story - A Tale of Shameless Self Promotion.
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Post by revtaz on May 2, 2009 19:55:48 GMT -6
My favorite part is the ESPN poll. And this specific quote:
"Is there room in America (and worldwide) for more than one type of football? Yes, in just two years, the A-11 has drawn the attention of rabid football fans and casual observers alike."
This just makes it all that more ridiculous. Fans who watch NFL Network and play Madden who think that the best thing to say as constructive criticism is "THROW THE BALL!!!"
Awesome.
Taz
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Post by groundchuck on May 2, 2009 19:59:29 GMT -6
Sorry guys, I would comment more but I am on my way to a clinic now.
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Post by coachweav88 on May 2, 2009 20:28:56 GMT -6
So now, without the shifitng, and not everyone being potentially eligible, they may actually have to execute something rather than trick people with their gimmicks Wow, what an interesting concept. So I guess he still claims to be "innovative" even though BYU was doing this 20 years ago
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Post by phantom on May 2, 2009 21:23:05 GMT -6
So now, without the shifitng, and not everyone being potentially eligible, they may actually have to execute something rather than trick people with their gimmicks Wow, what an interesting concept. So I guess he still claims to be "innovative" even though BYU was doing this 20 years ago 20 years ago? That was our base offense my sophomore year in HS- 1968. Yeah, we stunk.
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Post by coachweav88 on May 2, 2009 21:54:15 GMT -6
So now, without the shifitng, and not everyone being potentially eligible, they may actually have to execute something rather than trick people with their gimmicks Wow, what an interesting concept. So I guess he still claims to be "innovative" even though BYU was doing this 20 years ago 20 years ago? That was our base offense my sophomore year in HS- 1968. Yeah, we stunk. Even more innovative
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Post by coachorr on May 2, 2009 23:06:37 GMT -6
Sorry guys, I would comment more but I am on my way to a clinic now. Is it a slap chop clinic or shamwow? ;D Did you hear our buddy (the shamwow guy) was out picking up hookers and got his ace kicked?
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Post by endersgame on May 3, 2009 1:53:45 GMT -6
Did you hear our buddy (the shamwow guy) was out picking up hookers and got his ace kicked? Hahaha, yeah that was hilarious. And did you see his beautiful face on that mugshot? You'd think the guy who markets the ShamWow wouldn't need hookers because he'd have girls all over him... but it's a strange world we live in. As for the A-11 dude, well... Personally I don't think we should bicker over the "spirit of the rules," which strangely doesn't seem to be stated anywhere clearly, but I definitely disagree with this A-11 guy's marketing approach. So I'm sort of in the middle- don't have a screaming fit over the A-11 and call it unfair, but tell this guy he needs to shut up about it already unless he plans on petitioning for rule changes which would make the A-11 legal.
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Post by mahonz on May 3, 2009 7:07:00 GMT -6
I am not a blogger but do you usually quote yourself on your blog in a story about yourself? Very odd. Like those who talk about themselves in the 3rd person. BTW I ran the a-11 last season. The reason Bryan would run away from questions is because he didn’t have any real answers once he took his company "public.". His group came up with an interesting concept but were not the right people for the job. He is not a great innovator....he is a spectacular salesman. Now he is dealing with (avoiding)...a bunch of very upset "clients". A few in my circle of have tried to ask him point blank if he had any idea that his over priced DVD's would become paper weights in the near future. Seriously....great innovator's do think ahead...right? He does run fast...I'll give him that. Coach Mike
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Post by mariner42 on May 3, 2009 14:13:21 GMT -6
Met him at a clinic at Berkeley. Used car salesman give off better vibes.
I've got nothing against innovation, but the absolute lack of perspective when you're clearly exploiting a loophole is disingenuous when you begin to MARKET that and convince other people to jump on board with you. I don't feel for him in the least, but guys like fella above me ought to demand a recovery of their $$$. He had to know there was a tiny window and that it was closing more and more every day, but to continue marketing it... Eh, I'm done, we all know all the arguments against.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on May 3, 2009 15:49:03 GMT -6
I frankly don't see what the problem is with all of you, the A-11 is great! Vince. Sorry I don't have time to stay around and talk, I've got to go to a clinic...or did I mean I've got to go TO a clinic.
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Post by dubber on May 4, 2009 8:08:15 GMT -6
Football has always been a numbers game.
For this offense to work, I would suggest:
X-----T-----------------G-C-G--------------T--------Y --------------A-----------------------B ---------------------------Q--R
Getting this to work out number's wise. If T is the inside guy, we lose the ability to run bubble screen well, and he is truly a wasted player. However, in this set, he blocks force on bubble and kicks out corner on Fast screen.
Plus, this becomes an interesting matter of what to do with your #2 defender. If you cover up A/B and leave T alone, you still have a 3-on-2 advantage for the offense.
If you have him split the difference, now A/B has a clean inside release. Then's there is the matter of it still being 3 on 2.
If you can apply the uncovered rules and make them go 3 to each side that would leave you with 4 in the box, unless they DO NOT want safety support----the defense always has the ability to out number the box, but they give up safety support to get it.
The "negative bubbles" by ineligible are most trash plays, but they do interest me. Would they be good enough for flare control? Enough to pull the flat defender's attention?
If so, you could get some legitimate triangle stretches out of this deal......on both sides.
Potential........but it needs a smarter coach than myself or Bryan to make it work.
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Post by Wingtman on May 4, 2009 8:27:03 GMT -6
I love how dude quoted himself in his own article. Thats money.
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Post by coachorr on May 4, 2009 9:10:55 GMT -6
No offense, but my favorite "game breaker" is the one who is a consitent blocker who can pancake kids and finish blocks. I was just listening to Jason Smith in an interview (the tackle from Baylor drafter by the Rams), he says, " I play with a chip on my shoulder". Yes! That is my kind of game changer. I think coachorr has it correct here. The real game breakers are in fact the offensive linemen. I can't believe how incredibly intelligent this comment is. Good job coach orr.
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Post by phantom on May 4, 2009 9:17:38 GMT -6
No offense, but my favorite "game breaker" is the one who is a consitent blocker who can pancake kids and finish blocks. I was just listening to Jason Smith in an interview (the tackle from Baylor drafter by the Rams), he says, " I play with a chip on my shoulder". Yes! That is my kind of game changer. I think coachorr has it correct here. The real game breakers are in fact the offensive linemen. I can't believe how incredibly intelligent this comment is. Good job coach orr. Phantom would comment on that but he's busy ordering pay per view porn.
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Post by bigdog2003 on May 4, 2009 9:19:02 GMT -6
That ESPN poll was a joke. Some of the "rabid fans" I talked to thought that all 10 guys were running down the field trying to catch passes every play. They had no idea what the A11 really was.
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Post by dubber on May 4, 2009 11:25:05 GMT -6
No offense, but my favorite "game breaker" is the one who is a consitent blocker who can pancake kids and finish blocks. I was just listening to Jason Smith in an interview (the tackle from Baylor drafter by the Rams), he says, " I play with a chip on my shoulder". Yes! That is my kind of game changer. I think coachorr has it correct here. The real game breakers are in fact the offensive linemen. I can't believe how incredibly intelligent this comment is. Good job coach orr. funny
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