bones72
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Post by bones72 on Oct 6, 2007 21:12:56 GMT -6
Circumstances;
Very Small Town, 4 team league. Everyone knows everyone.(Except on the net,lol) Select group of athletes are viciously verbally attacking boys not as athletic as them. Sometimes even their own. This group cuts somewhat across the teams. Except, I coach the majority. Noticed some very rough play today. Told the ref to call it. It's flag, and rougher than hell. Found that its directed at one player on the other team, and that its my team. The parents don't believe it, but it is there. Not just the on field violence, but its off the field as well. Assitant coach has called the school counselor. But I am super P.O.'d. Any Ideas?
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Post by brophy on Oct 6, 2007 21:23:27 GMT -6
can you clarify this?
It is difficult to understand if it is YOUR team, other teams, ......what is the real issue?
When the inmates run the asylum, control and purpose is easily lost. The 'inmates' are vicarious parents / relatives shouting from the sidelines.
AD/Principals/Head Coach handles their own crowd. That behavior shouldn't be tolerated on your team or by your team's parents. Address it tactfully, and redirect the focus back to the benefit of youth sports
("telling the ref to '**$@ off' after a call, really isn't what you are here for. We all want Johnny to get a sense of respect and self-discipline from playing football")
I don't blame ya....its no wonder society is so screwed up when you see what is happening at home (and the ideals / behavior encouraged).
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Post by coachjim on Oct 7, 2007 3:35:12 GMT -6
Get it on film and show the parents. Then... see how they like bear crawls.
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bones72
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Post by bones72 on Oct 7, 2007 4:02:34 GMT -6
Let me attempt to clarify. Its my starting backfield, plus some players off other teams. They have formed a little clique of bullies. I don't know else to call it, but there it is. Yuck. Some of the parents will not see this.
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Post by coachjim on Oct 7, 2007 4:36:13 GMT -6
Every league has a commish with the rosters to every team. Give the game film to him and let him handle it. Sounds like a league problem which is something he would be ultimately responsible for and be concerned about.
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tedseay
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Post by tedseay on Oct 7, 2007 5:49:02 GMT -6
Get it on film and show the parents. Then... see how they like bear crawls. You give your parents bear crawls? Damn -- why didn't I think of that? ;D  ;D |
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Post by davecisar on Oct 7, 2007 6:26:16 GMT -6
YOu would have to be very specific and have film to back up your claim. Obvioulsy it would have to be malicious in order to be true. You could talk to your assistant coaches for back up and then do just like the police do and isolate each of the trouble makers. If you really plan on going after these kids and doing something about it, someone is going to have to admit to this. You let them know the jig is up and that one of their teammates let you know what was going on and the first one to step forward will be allowed BACK on the team if they give you some details on the others. You let each isolated kid know they didnt mean any harm and its just something that got out of hand and that you know it was someone else in the group leading the abuse, that you dont think they should have to suffer because of the actions of someone else in their little group, watch NYPD Blue or Law and Order, LOL.
I DESPISE bullying and clicks. These kids would be running laps holding hands and demoted or kicked off on my team if I knew this was malicious and targeted to one or two unpopular kids. I would isolate and ignore them and see how they enjoy it, no one allowed to talk to them or each other. They would be begging for mercy in tears and shame or off my team if I knew it was true. If it is true and you prove it, then sure alert the school and parents.
Once you have your facts proven, time to make them throw up per LOS. Ask them how they like being bullied while the other kids enjoy some pizza and cold drinks. Let them know a real man shows compassion for those less blessed than oneself, that COWARDS act like they do.
If it was my kid doing the bullying, he would pay oh so dearly. But that isnt how we raise our kids, they are always looking out for that "stray" kid. Unfortuantely many self absorbed, Johnny can do no wrong types or just the single parent neglected kids are never taught that. Great chance to do some good.
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Post by los on Oct 7, 2007 6:30:51 GMT -6
Here's one idea on how you can stress the importance of teamwork and helping to build up your teammates confidence, rather than bullying them and calling them wimpy, losers etc..(by the way, too bad this is flag football)  Next time you run offense, nobody move or block anyone, just let the guys on defense bully them a little? Then, for your "big bully" that plays defense, the always popular "QB take the snap, run back and take a knee while the other 10 guys block the bully play" ;D I've got lots more ideas on how to handle bullys on my team, other teams or just in general bullyishness but many of them require "special anti-bully" techniques, such as "my size 12 in their butt", "numerous grass drills till they puke or cry(preferably both)", running laps till "I" get tired of watching them, in other words, "a bigger bully, humiliating them in front of their victims"   But these "special" techniques should never be used without first consulting a parent or guardian, then reading all warning labels very carefully |
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bones72
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Post by bones72 on Oct 7, 2007 8:56:04 GMT -6
The first of all virtues is humility.
Thank you gentlemen for your support. I just got off the 'phone with the father of the kid who is targeted by the bullies. He wants to 'just let it ride'. First thing Monday, AM the school counselor and I will be chatting. One of the bullies is the principal's kid. So, this could be ugly. Oh well, that's why coaches get the big bucks.
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Next time you run offense, nobody move or block anyone, just let the guys on defense bully them a little? Then, for your "big bully" that plays defense, the always popular "QB take the snap, run back and take a knee while the other 10 guys block the bully play" ;D
But these "special" techniques should never be used without first consulting a parent or guardian, then reading all warning labels very carefully