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Post by walt7474 on Jul 9, 2007 8:17:36 GMT -6
OK. We had our parents/players meeting last night to go over things for the upcoming season. Went over introductions, equipment, schedule, expectations, etc. We had a Q & A session and had one set of parents bring up our league's minimum play rule (4 plays per half). They are basically still pi**ed off from last year when their son only got minimum plays. They say we should make it our rule that each kid gets more than the league minimum. We stuck to our policy of keeping with the league's rule but ended up looking like a bunch of a'holes in front of the new parents. We had some parents saying they're paying the same, their kids should have equal playing time. Has anybody else ran into something similar to this and how did you handle it?
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Post by Coach Bruce on Jul 9, 2007 12:23:22 GMT -6
Let the parents know that if their son is not up to snuff physically then it is in the boys and the teams best interest to limit his PT. If the boy cannot carry out his assignment then not only he but team mates could get hurt. Also if the boy shys away from contact or physicality this could also cause injury to not only himself but others. And last but not least, if another is doing a better job, should he not be rewarded for this? This is how life works and football teaches us LIFE.
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Post by davecisar on Jul 9, 2007 14:10:10 GMT -6
So if one player works harder, listens better and plays better he should play just as much as the kid that doesnt listen, doesnt come to practice and doesnt work hard? Thank God I run my own program I would have given them the name and phone number of the nearest YMCA Girls soccer program and the local ballet school.
Seriously, I tell all our parents how it is going to be in a mandatory meeting the first day of practice., I have phone numbers on paper in my pocket of all my compeititors teams. If they dont like the way we do things, ( not negotiable, parent and player contracts) they can be someone elses thorn, I gladly give them the phone numbers.
Do not bend let em go elsewhere, they will be a pain.
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Post by jazzo on Jul 9, 2007 15:09:13 GMT -6
So if one player works harder, listens better and plays better he should play just as much as the kid that doesnt listen, doesnt come to practice and doesnt work hard? Thank God I run my own program I would have given them the name and phone number of the nearest YMCA Girls soccer program and the local ballet school. Seriously, I tell all our parents how it is going to be in a mandatory meeting the first day of practice., I have phone numbers on paper in my pocket of all my compeititors teams. If they dont like the way we do things, ( not negotiable, parent and player contracts) they can be someone elses thorn, I gladly give them the phone numbers. Do not bend let em go elsewhere, they will be a pain. Good Advice...
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Post by jazzo on Jul 9, 2007 15:22:17 GMT -6
if another is doing a better job, should he not be rewarded for this? This is how life works and football teaches us LIFE. I agree, but unfortunately I still see a lot of nepotism with coaches. I'm currently dealing with a situation like that so far this season. Also, life has proved it doesn't always work like how you stated above. It should be the better, smarter or harder worker gets the job. As adults we know the real world doesn't always work like that. I've seen players who were better than starters not get the opportunity, because of nepotism. I've also seen kids with bad attitudes not get disciplined. Even though they would roll their eyes and were disrespectful, they would still get to play when/where they wanted. The good attitude, punctual, disciplined, hard working kids, etc. would still get the short end of the stick. I'm going to do everything in my power to eliminate the favoritism this year in our association. I totally agree with you on the way the playing time should be distributed.....
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Post by davecisar on Jul 9, 2007 19:18:02 GMT -6
All of our drills are competitive drills. We divide the team in 3rds, if you win the tackling drill, blocking drill, whatever you move to the group on your right, lose move to the group on your left. In the end all my best kdis are in the group on the right,. We also do count outs, you lose the drill you sit, at the end all the best players are left., I never dsicuss playing time with parents but if you do just tell em to come to your tackling 3 group contests if they wonder why junior isnt starting at linebacker. Coaches need to understand the guys that consistently WIN the tackling drill are our linebackers assuming the kid comes to practice. As head coach I decide who plays and how much with a playing tine depth chart. Nepostism doesnt exist, almost a reverse nepotism for many of our coaches, myself included. Ive only coached my kids 2 seasons and he often has played the least of any player, my coaches see that and understand.
I DO NOT TOLERATE eye rollers, it just flat our doesnt happen to me, 15 years coaching in 3 different towns. Wont accept it, wont tolerate it, so it doesnt happen. I dont play kids with bad attitudes and find it hard to respect coaches that do. That kid isnt beign done any favors long term if he isnt dsciplined. You can win and hold kids accountable, not mutually exclusive.
Player contracts, parent contracts and a firm discussion is all thats needed, Works with rich spoiled suburbaan kids *( 1st coaching job) inner city p[roject living kids with zip parental support ( second job) and rural kids, where I am now.
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lp78
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Post by lp78 on Jul 13, 2007 21:19:04 GMT -6
Our league rules are every player will play the 1st 5 plays of each quarter minimum. Either offense, defense, special teams or a combination of all.
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Post by coachjim on Jul 19, 2007 23:19:46 GMT -6
In the first week, you will be sizing up your team. Bring a stop watch and time them for the 40 meters, 10 yds, and rate them on catching, passing, etc... during practice, keeps stats as well and of course, during games (in our league it's mandatory.)
That way when a parent asks you about his kid and why he doesn't play as much. Show him/her the stats. Nothing brings a parent down to earth like seeing his kid runs the 40 in a half hour.
Other than that option, I agree with Dave, as usual. I don't deal with them on the level of how I coach, if they are that committed and knowledgable, what are they doing on the sidelines?
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redder
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Post by redder on Jul 23, 2007 8:47:22 GMT -6
Great advise coaches. I coached peewee football for 15 years never had a son play for me. The athletes will take care of themselves. Work harder with those not so athletic. Remember some of those kids are there because mom and or dad wanted them there. At first you will have those 8 play players, but as they develop and you make this fun for them they learn to like the sport. Yes occasionally you get that one that could not tackle or block a baby that crawls. Do the best you can. Get good assistant coaches, but be particular who you get, sometimes a parent assistant only wants to work with their kid.
During the years I coached I was an assistant, got involved because we had three guys with no sons that loved football. We coached our daughters’ softball team during the spring. Coached football in the fall and had them as cheerleaders.
Other advice let another coach you trust coach your kid. On our softball team we never coached our own daughters; we let the other coaches do it. This concept worked out pretty well for us.
Hope you laid down the team rules to the parents. Remember those younger players will be next years starters for you.
Today I stay involved with football; I now officiate high school football and run our association’s concession stand. Guess it is for the love of the game and the kids.
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